The Malazan 'Old Guard'

Duiker: 'Both (Cartheron) Crust and Urko were the Emperor's men...It seems they shared the same fate as most of Kellanved's companions, including Toc the Elder and Ameron. None of their bodies were ever found, either...Old history now. Forbidden history, in fact.'

Kulp: 'Imagine a circumstance where the Empress's(sp) most able commanders simply...disappeared...before Laseen became Empress, she was close companions with (Cartheron) Crust, Urko, Ameron, Dassem and the others'

Duiker: 'They were my companions, too'

DG, UK MMPB, p.80